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File Updated: July, 10
Don't know what HRB or RLM is? "Horny Russian Babes" & "Russian Lanky Models". Click here. Why
are "HRB" & "RLM"
"Gorgeous Russian Girls" (gorgeousrussiangirls.com)
"Your Love Story" (your-lovestory.com)
"Latin Love Ave" (latinloveave.com)
& "Zolushka" (zolushka.net)
International Link (Medellin, Colombia)
on my Black List?
MASSIVE
NEWS - FEBRUARY, 2010 - 100% SCAM PROOF FROM THE SOURCE - CLICK HERE
(links to actual complaints...)
(links to MORE
complaints...)
"Jim
- Please
contact the BBB of West Florida, I’ve got a case pending with them. See
my rebuttal on 10-28-09 for all the evidence I have against RLM
documenting their fraud:"
http://westflorida.app.bbb.org/complaint/view/67148277/c/zefl9m
Also contact the Florida – Division of Consumer Services 2005 Apalachee
Pkwy Tallahassee Florida 32399-6500.
Phone # 850-488-2221
PLEASE
make a complaint about this agency at the BBB!!!!
http://www.orlando.bbb.org/complaints/commoncomplaint.html?step=1
August '09 - read my
investigation into several agencies
Read
blogs written by a former employee...
http://www.greencuckolds.blogspot.com
http://nuestroshombresdechat.blogspot.com/
http://ourmeninchat.blogspot.com/
NEW
- If you have given
money to this flat-out scam site, send emails of complaint to the
following. We HAVE to shut down these criminals. It doesn't have to be
big and professional. Just let these places know that they are
supporting criminals.
SECURESERVER.NET
(go to their contact form)
VeriSign® (go to their contact form)
support@wildwestdomains.com APRIL - 2010
I have removed the old text and now I am going to explain to you what the deal is with this company. This
US company does not committ fraud. They actually don't do anything
except count the money and send their affiliates in Urkaine and Russia
their commissions. Ah, there is the fraud. Their
are affiliate offices in Ukraine. These offices are affiliates of this
company, and sometimes of more agencies. Girls go to these local
offices and join in order to find a foreign husband. But, because
the Ukrainian economy is so bad, and Ukrainians do not have any
scruples, these local offices hire girls. These hired girls make
profiles and chat in video. (Or sometimes without video) These girls
are not looking for a foreign husband. They are looking for a
paycheque. These girls also write letters and even write letters from
the profiles of real girls. The real girl has no idea. The amount of
fake letters and video chat (with paid girls) is HUGE. I estimate about
80%. No joke. I have hundreds of letters from guys that discovered that
they were being scammed, girls that worked there and did not like it,
former and current employees. Read
the complaints above and below, as well as the other pages. This
company does NOT committ fraud. The agencies in Ukraine (that this
company uses) committ fraud. Complaints
One guy chats with a girl
(after being bombarded with requests from 20 year olds...he is
50.) who
is a doctor. He asks what area of medicine and she suddenly ahs to run.
They never shat again.
Next is a 3rd-person admission.
A guy says that a couple girls confessed that there are some girls that
go to the office (from 12pm to 6pm, for example) and chat. They are
making the agency (and themselves) money.
A
guy sent me a report stating that he had stayed awake, chatting on this
agency for 24 straight hours. He did this twice. He noticed some women
that also stayed online, chatting for 24 straight hours. But the
webcams were not on all this time. So, you could not see who was doing the
chatting. Obviously, the ofice staff was posing as girls.
LETTER
FROM RUSSIAN GIRL ABOUT HRB SCAMMING GIRLS!!!!
Hello
Jim! May be you could help me. The situation is the following: My name
is Tanya, I live in Ukraine, I m 22 years old. In September I was
looking for a job and found an agency that needed the tranlators. As it
turned out it was the marriage agency (www.zolushka.net), its branch in
my town. They asked my passport to scan to provide me with my future
salary. As they said my mission was just to translate the letters from
Ukrainian girls into English. They recommened me to make my own profile
on the site. Later on it occured that they were supposed to pay money
to girls who are chatting and corresponding with men. No real meating
of course, pure business. When I found that I immideately refused to
work with them. I asked many times to delete my profile BUT. They still
use it - other girls correspond under my name, and the fact that they
have the copy of my passport as the assurance that such person really
exist makes me frustrated. They pump out money from foreign men is it
fair? The only thing I want just to delete my profile from this pseudo
marriage agency. I do not want my name to be there. I would love to
apply to the particular institution to close this charlatan agency.
What should I do?
MORE PROOF FROM RUSSIAN GIRLS
ABOUT HRB
The girl
that interviewed my girlfriend here in Nikolaev told that the
headquarters of
http://zolushka.net are in US. They seem
to make a lot of money. They offer about 400 USD/month for the girls
that work
hard.
Scamming stories at HRB just don't stop...(July, 07 - letter to me)
As you may know, a feature of
the site is the message center.
There are several categories of files there. Whenever a
member
selects another member as a "favorite" the selector show up in
the selectees account as an "admirer." When both the male and
female members, reciprocate and likewise select the admirer as
a personal favorite, then that favorite changes designation in both
accounts, to become a "match."
I was recently adding my 126th selection of a most beautiful girl
as a favorite, after which, almost immediately, she became a match. I
also noticed the blinking green icon which alerted me to the
fact that she was then currently on webcam. I clicked on the
icon to see her live, and thanked her for making us a match.
She didn't know what I was talking about. She was sitting in
the
TV studio, not answering email, nor responding to listings.
This
girl spoke good English, and didn't need a translator. Even
though she didn't personally select me as a favorite, she was not at all
concerned that some how, as if by computer magic, she had automatically
been selected by some undetermined entity.
The PROOF continues to ROLL IN TO MY
INBOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - MAY 2007
Thanks Jim!
I only wished I had seen your site earlier! Although I wasted a few
thousand
dollars; you have probably saved me over $10,000. Like many of your
other
testimonies, I too spent a lot of time (hours each day) "chatting" on
"HRB." Here's some of my observations that made me go
"hmmm...:"
* I could tell that the women on the web camera were talking to more
than just me.
* The more I talked to a particular woman, the slower her response.
This seemed to
happen a lot with women without web cameras (web cams). I couldn't
understand why
unless they were talking to many different guys. After a while, I
started to get
frustrated because when you chat; TIME IS MONEY. The meter
runs as long as you are
connected. It runs TWICE AS FAST when they have a web camera. I finally
realized
that their objective was to "milk my account" for as long as possible.
Talking to me was secondary… :-)
* Women that chat on a web cam get irritated when you shift the camera
off. In fact,
they knew once I turned it off. Until I "pulled my head out of my
butt," I couldn't understand why that was such a big deal.
1. It wasn't like she could see me.
2. I had already seen her that day.
3. It would extend my chat time and save money and time that I would
spend with her instead of “feeding the meter.”.
Obviously, they were getting something more from the web cam than my
"charming conversation." :-)
*Although they desperately wanted me to come for a visit, only one of
them would
give me a phone number. I kept wondering how she expected me to find
her until I
realized (thanks to this site) that I was simply being "sucked" into
part "B" of the
scheme; where I pay the agency to set up the meetings. I suppose the
ladies make a
nice commission if they can get you to go there.
* Now Jim, I don’t have your “spidey
senses,” but I think I possess a measure of
common sense. I try not to be cynical, but when I see a lady
on-line at noon in
Florida time (8PM Ukraine time) and she is STILL on-line at 9PM Florida
time (5AM
Ukraine time!!!); I have to call “BS.” It
is a lot of the same women who are doing
this, and some of these women are HOT! When I first joined
HRB, I chatted with a
few of them (and they were on a web cam). It was easy to tell that they
had been
awake all night. However, I stopped talking to them once I
became enchanted with
one particular lady (a 35 year old woman from
Kiev). Unfortunately, I caught my
particular lady (that I had been chatting with solely for over 5 weeks)
doing the
same thing. We always had a “set time” to
chat, then I would sign off. I was
planning a visit with her and her family soon. We had chatted
earlier (6PM Ukraine
time) and I wanted to surprise her with a letter and attach a new photo
of me and my
adult children. It was 9PM Florida time (5AM Ukraine time the next
morning) when I went to
send her a letter and to my suprise, there she was on a web cam. I
could tell that
she was talking and typing to someone. Her English was good. She looked
tired. Just
as tired as the ladies looked when I use to chat with everyone in the
early morning
hours. She stated that she had waited for me all night (11
hours) to talk in the
morning. I told her that I had to go to bed but I had left
her a letter with a
photo. I knew that she was not being exactly honest with me. She stated
that she had
to leave also and would be back in 2 days for our normal chat (normally
at 6PM
Ukraine time). Yet, that very next night she was again on-line at 3AM
Ukraine time;
typing away to some guy. I was disappointed with
her to say the least. I was
easily spending over 2 hours and easily over $100.00 per day
chatting with her. Do
the math: (7 x $100.00) x 5 weeks… Yea,
I had a little money invested in her on
correspondence alone….That is when I started checking out
discussion forums and found out
about your site. If I had seen this site months earlier, I may be
seeing a foreign
lady right now. You’ve got valuable info here and
you have saved me a lot of future
trouble. What one of your earlier writer stated now makes a lot of
sense and I’m
sure it is true; the ladies get paid a commission and this is nothing
more than a
part time job for them. This writer was lucky to find an honest lady
that told him what was really going on.
Jim, I’m not a guy who is or ever was “desperate
for a date.” In fact, I am
currently seeing a lady from here in Florida. The reason I went looking
for a lady
from the FSU because I wanted someone with values. I also stayed away
from the 18-29
year olds. I also have the financial means to make any woman
feel secure. I enjoy
kids, I work out and stay in good shape, and I live in a place where it
is very
safe. I thought I had a good chance to meet a Russian or Ukrainian lady
and lose my
singe man status. However, the only thing I lost was my money and time.
I would like to send this message out to all of the guys
looking for a REAL RELATIONSHIP with a woman:
*Leave the HRB site alone!!!
*Don’t make the same mistake that I and others have!!
*Put your credit cards back in your wallet and move on!!
What a waste of time and money!!! I am sure there are many women in the
FSU who are
really looking for a husband. However, I don’t think
you’ll find any on this site.
For me, the most important thing to remember is that it has been easy
to make up the
money I wasted; however, I will never be able to recover the TIME that I
lost…NEVER…I told my present girlfriend about my
experience and we now laugh about
it. I have actually shown her this site and the women on-line. It has
been over 6
months since I left the site, and yet many of the women we saw on-line
are the same
as when I left. I see they have added Latin women to help draw more
clients.
Anyway, it gave us a good laugh and it is good to humble
yourself from time to time
and realize that there is “a little fool in all of
us.”
Thanks again Jim…
MORE - Here
is the best one. Has anyone noticed that many girls suddenly leave
chat, especially when they are asked questions that require very
specific answers? So, the girl appears to be offline, but you can go
and see the girl ONLINE, at the other agency. HUH? Another
guy
noticed this many times, He told her that he had heard that girls get
paid to chat on their site. Her eyes grew wide. Within 10 seconds, she
had to go. Surprise. Has anyone noticed that they are bombarded with
invitations to chat when you log in? Sorry, money is more important to
Russian girls than men are.
Mar 2007 -
Another letter from a guy...
Jim
, my name is **** and I live in the USA. I have spent lots of money at
"hRB" I was a beginner and did not do my homework.
just wanted to let you know that everything you stated about this site
is correct. One of the girls did like me to the point that she was able
to flash her number over the web cam. I called her and she did told me
ALL girls work on some kind of commission. They have set schedules
which they have to follow or they get "fired". She told me
that the
more guys they talk to (and the sexier the pics) the more money they
get. She felt bad and left the agency. No wonder I was getting
bombarded with pretty ladies wanting to talk to me. You have very good
info in your site and I do really appreciated.
Aug 20, 06 - I got a letter
from a guy that went to Ukraine to meet girls he had been talking to
through HRB.
These are the facts of his report. I don't care what HRB's policy
states. Here are the facts...
|
With HRB/RLM
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With Other
Agencies
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| Girl's
contact info - must spend $1000 to get |
$15
- $30 |
| Maximum
amount of addresses - 10 |
No
maximum |
| Attestation
forms must be given to agency 1 month in advance - not in policy |
Attestation
forms can be carried with you when you go to the agency's office |
| Other
paperwork must be done 1 month in advance - not in policy |
Most
agencies do not have other paperwork. You can go meet the girls |
| You
must make travel plans through the lady's agency. |
You
can usually make your own travel plans and meet girls at your leisure |
| The
owner could inform his clients better, but does not want to |
Most
agencies try to give all info BEFORE the trip |
| The
owner does not care what is said about him on the internet. He must be
making good money. |
Most
agencies owners care about their reputation and work to keep it good |
| Paying
$250 for each meeting. ($100 if you complain. $70 if you whine.) |
$15
- $50 |
| $50
for each subsequent meeting with same lady |
Most
agencies have a ONE-time fee. |
| A large amount of other complaints from this guy
are actually common complaints that many guys have with many Russian
offices. Basically, the Russian offices usually regard the foreign male
client as someone who should give them money for whatever they want and
take what he is (or isn't) given without saying a word about it. I
would think that an agency that charges so much would treat its
clients. But it seems that the cheaper, smaller agencies usually treat
their clients better than the big, money grubbing agencies. |
more... Hi Jim
Very interesting web site that you made . Wish I would have read it before I joined HRB.
This is my report to you for what it is worth ? Most likely a worthless report .
I
joined HRB. com at 9.99 a month then upgraded membership to Silver at
29.99 . I posted a profile and a photo of me . I am 57 years old. - I
received in 16 days 1000 emails from over 800 Ukraine ladies.
ages 18-55. I put age restriction in my profile that I was
looking for a women 42- to early 50's .
The orginal lady I
joined the site to write to finnaly wrote me. She was so ecited she did
not eat. - I sent her 41 emails. and was in chat 2 times for about 30
min each. : She invited me to the Ukraine. : I told her I wanted to
write a letter to her. , I asked that she write me a letter in
Russian and I would get it interpeted . SHE REFUSED and said
write her through the site.
She also did not want long
letters. To hard for her to interpet . So you see I had to buy extra
credits and at 10 credits per email I was spending around $6.00 per
email.
When in chat she was talking to a interpeter and that
is fine. It took forever to get message back and forth. But I noticed
several different times that when I sent her a email I got a replie so
fast it spun my head. - The more short emails we sent back and forth
neted even more money than chat in some ways.
I also wonder
how she can be a lawyer ast. a artist with paint orders and also a
cloth designer and still be online 8 hours a day every day ????
Lady
no # 2 choose me and I choose her for lasting forever relation
ship. When I asked for her email address so we could go Direct
email and leave the site. She said it was against site rules ! So
this is a possiable wife and she will not give me her email ??
I
answered a few other ladies only to be nice but was in serious contact
with 1 for sure and she would not even send me a letter from her home
??????
I just canceled my membership and no longer writting any
lady and had the site block any more incoming emails and marrage
request. Last I looked I was at 1179 emails. That in less than 2 weeks
. My subscrbition runs out Aug 3 but I am done with site. I
belive the intire site is just a money making deal with little to no
hope of meeting a Ukraine wife on it. - Maybe I am wrong ?
I
received a email from one lady that saw my profile and she showed a
American on her profile that she was now ingaged to. She wanted to
forward names of several ladies from the site to me if I was interested
???? So if I said yes send them It would cost me $6.00 . Why did she
just not put their numbers in the email she sent me ?? I got lots and
lots of questions and other type emails trying to get me to answer them
. ( All a Money Trap )
KInd Regards **** HRB
RLM
Gorgeous Russian Girls (gorgeousrussiangirls.com)
Your Love Story (your-lovestory.com)
Latin Love Ave (latinloveave.com) (new latin version of this scamming.)
zolushka.net
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